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Belarusian Portal

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Thanks for coming to the Portal. I got rid of the Lukashenko symbols and the greeny template/design. I hope you like it and thanks for working on Belarusian articles. I mainly created the portal to get articles (and other things) on Belarus created, showed around Wikipedia and just increase the Belarusian presence on not just Wikipedia, but the Internet in general. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 22:49, 23 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Domeyko

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He never considered himself Belarusian and no serious scholars consider him Belarusian today. So please stop.--Witkacy 05:48, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • the man was born in Belarus and at least this is a reason good enough to mention him as Belarusian.

1. Belorusia dont existed at that time. 2. Milions of Poles lived befor the 2ww in todays Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania. Even today 4% of the Belorusian population are Poles. See Demographics of Belarus.

  • His forefathers did not migrate from Poland (oh, or you have evidence?), but were Belarusian. Even Damiejka is a Belarusian (Ruthenian, but not Polish) surname.

Do you have some evidence that they NOT migrate from Poland? His surname is of no importance - are all Belarusian with ski surnames Poles? And BTW his surname was DOMEYKO and not Damiejka..

  • In Belarus he is officically considered to be Belarusian. This can not be ignored.

In Belarus Lukashenko is officically a hero :)

You just ingnore the fact, that he never considered himself Belorusian and nobody do that. Please also stop to add Belarusian names for other Poles like Lucjan Zeligowski, that's ridiculously... Wielka Encyklopedia PWN: [1] --Witkacy 06:34, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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[2], [3], [4], [5], [6] etc, etc ....

"... In the year 2002 we have the 200th anniversary of Ignacy Domeyko's birthday /1802-1889/ an outstanding Polish patriot and scientist. On this occasion Polish Post together with Chile Post will issue a post stamp ..."

"Damiejka considered himself as Litvin, probably spoke Polish as mother tongue but was Belarusian (Litvin) of origin"

No. He did not, and he never used the name Domejka ...

"Belorusia does not exist even today. I know only Belarus or White Ruthenia and people who can not write correctly. There where never "MILLIONS" of Poles in Belarus - several tens thousands migrated to Belarus between WWI and WWII - that's all!"

I have said milions of Poles in Belarus, Ukraine and Lithuania... Poles migrated after the WWI? No Poles in todays Belarus in times of the PLC? and partitions of Poland? That's interesting... BTW: 4% of 10,310,520 = 400 000 Poles (today).

However... He was a Pole, and your own opinion dont change simply facts...--Witkacy 07:40, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of rather harsh attitude of Witkacy, there is some serious point in what he writes. Most of all, if we followed your logic we'd have to quote also other translations or transliterations of his name (which was one, the other versions seem just that). For instance, he was born in Russia, so a Russian rendering should be mentioned. He was also born in former Grand Duchy of Lithuania, so perhaps a Ruthenian or Lithuanian version could be mentioned..? Finally, the area he was born in what soon after his birth became France, so how about adding Ignace Domeyko..?
Anyway, all these translations of his name were not what he signed his works with. Why to pretend it was not so? Halibutt 09:01, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
Gentlemen, see Talk:Ignacy Domeyko for the answers--Czalex 17:15, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Dear Witkacy, would you please firstly argument your subjective changes proposals in the talk page. I'm sorry, but what you are doing now is ridiculous"

It has been already discussed. --Witkacy 20:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You did not answer my last message (check the Talk page of the article!). If we consider the discussion for closed, let us keep the article with both Belarusian and Polish categories and names in it. It is a compromise.--Czalex 20:20, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Come on.. its only wasting of time.. He wasnt a Pole, yes.. he was a Polish patriot !!! :)--Witkacy 21:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It is waste of time, you're damn right! :) Being Polish patriot didn't make him not Belarusian of origin and birthplace. And one can be sure that he was a patriot of his home the same much as he was patriot of Poland (to sum up - he was patriot of the former Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth). So leaving him there as a Belarusian scientist doesn't stop him from being Polish geologist! Both Belarusians and Poles can be proud of Damiejka, so how about a peace treaty on this?--Czalex 21:43, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

3-revert rule violation

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Ignacy Domeyko. Cool down. Not a matter of life and death. mikka (t) 21:44, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Of course not, but it is a matter of Wikipedias objectivity and completeness.--Czalex 21:49, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Award

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For your valiant efforts in increasing the Belarusian presence on Wikipedia, I hereby award you the Barnstar of National Merit. Zscout370 (Sound Off)(KC)
Thank you! :)

Жыве Беларусь!

Just in case you wanted to change the award to a more localised version... :)
The Belarusian Barnstar of National Merit
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this WikiAward was given to {{subst:PAGENAME}} by ~~~ on ~~~~~

--Halibutt 12:59, May 31, 2005 (UTC)

I'm glad that you are able to help me on the Belarusian articles, so that was why I gave you the BoNM (which, I created). As for the Belarusian variant, have fun with it, give it to whoever. I am not as picky about the award as my friend Redux does, but I would not be surprised if he talks to you again Halibutt and to you, Czalex. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 22:12, 31 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Though, personally, I think the template I used is screwing up your talk page. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 22:13, 31 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Belarusian babel templates

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Hello,

please have a look at belarusian babel templates in the Russian Wiki. Maybe we can unify templates in English and Russian domains? Which version do you think is better? -- Paul Pogonyshev 07:24, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!
1) the difference AFAIC is only in the writing - Taraškievica vs Narkomaŭka. In the Belarusian wiki we have a rule not to convert Taraškievica to Narkomaŭka and vice versa (just like there's a rule not to convert British English to American in the English Wiki), so both variants are OK
2) the other difference is свабодна валодае беларускай мовай vs выдатна ведае беларускую мову. IMO the 2nd variant sounds better--Czalex 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Jan Karol Chodkiewicz

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  • 1. Nobody really knows the origins of the Chodkiewicz family.
  • 2. According to a legend they were descendants of boyars from Kiev (Ukraine).
  • 3. Something like "Belarusian nobility" dont exist at that time (Belarus/Belarusians not existed at that time, neither as a country nor as a nation)
  • 4. Only because Charles VII, Holy Roman Emperor was Teresa Kunegunda Sobieskas son, (or the children of Maria Klementyna Sobieska) it does not mean that he/they were Polish nobles.
  • 5. Please note for the future, that - for an example - only because George Bush's forefathers were from England or Scotland or Ireland, it dont change the fact that he himself is an American, and the Bush family are Americans.
  • 6. Probably you have also Polish, Lithuanian, Ukrainian, or Russian ancestors - but it makes you not less Belarusian.

--Witkacy 19:59, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"Polacy dawno obchodzą się tak, by nas, wielkie rody litewskie, rozdrażnione do zguby przyprowadzić" A quote from: H. Visneris, Lietuvos Didžiosios Kunigaikštystės valstybingumo pavojai, Vilnius 1991,

(seems a dubious source)

As i already said, the origins of the family are unknown. Probably Kiev, maybe Lithuania - nobody knows it.

And yes, the Chodkiewicz's were Orthodox, then Calvinists and finally Catholics (Jan Karol Was Catholic). See also point 3 above.--Witkacy 22:35, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Transliteration and transcription of Belarusian

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Would you perhaps consider writing something similar to this article for Belarusian? I believe it would be very helpful for Wikipedians trying to transcribe Belarusian names. If you don't have time, I can try to lump something together, but I believe you are much better qualified to write it than me.

Btw, here you can find the 2000 transliteration standard in a non-mangled form (search the page for 2 приложение). -- Naive cynic 10:23, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Creating an article like this is a very good idea - but the problem is that I am not really familiar with the different Romanization systems, except for Lacinka and the Official system. Maybe it would be best if you'd make a draft and I would then check the article for correctness?--Czalex 12:06, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Well, neither really am I, but I'll see what can I do. :) -- Naive cynic 14:59, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Page moves

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Please don't move pages into titles with nonconventional transliteration. This is against wikipedia rules: common English spelling must be used. This was discussed in length when Ukrainian nationalists tried to replace Kiev by Kyiv everywhere. mikka (t) 21:52, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This transliteration is not controversial, it is an official standard approved by the state carthorgaphy committee to be used for transliteration of Belarusian names--Czalex 06:41, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I konw that. I myself added the corresponding section in Belarusian language. I am not saying it is controversial. You are not listening to what I am saying. Official Belarusian standard has no force on English language. While it is OK to use whatever spelling you want (includig belarussian translit) on the minor toponyms, well-known cities already have English names, and no one will ever force to use "Moskva" in English instead of Moscow. mikka (t) 16:45, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Statement

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I'm not saying I never disagreed with You, but on Smalensk, You've got my total support, cousin! Space Cadet 01:11, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Chauvinist vandalism.

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I restored Belarusian: Смаленск in the corresponding article. If the Chauvinist gang vandalises other Belarus-related articles, please let me know. I add'll these artciles to my whatchlist. We have to do something against this crazy mafia. If you know the people that can support us, please let me know. Regards, --AndriyK 10:20, 27 October 2005 (UTC) P.S. You may also add your comment Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#User:Ghirlandajo|here.--AndriyK 10:20, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I know even more people who can put you to reason. The population of Russia is ten times as large as Halychyna, remember. No matter how many racists you recruit, we will bring ten times more. --Ghirlandajo 11:27, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
OK! :) --Czalex 19:16, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ten times more racists, you mean? Space Cadet 12:20, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Smalensk

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Thanks for a final compromise with Sm(O/A)lensk. In fact it was forged along the lines of a similar discussion regarding Ukrainian cities. You can see it at Talk:Kiev#Summary_of_older_discussions_over_names_in_the_articles. What do you think, does it make sense? Finally, I call on everyone to avoid strong rhetoric. Long Live Belarus' as well as any other nation. --Irpen 21:20, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Alexander,

The List of country names in various languages, List of European regions with alternative names, List of European cities with alternative names, List of European rivers with alternative names, and others, have come under attack by a certain Mikka, who, having just stumbled into all these lists, having found them of little use to himself, and having repeatedly ridiculed them and their users, has then promptly filed a petition to delete the lists in question.

Please cast your vote to keep these valuable, informative, and indeed fascinating lists at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of country names in various languages.

Thanks! Pasquale 16:23, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Geographic names

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I'm looking for input from Belarusian editors about the geographical naming guidelines that we're trying to create. Would you take a look at the proposals at Wikipedia:Naming conventions/Geographic names (particularly the proposal D version 2) and then possibly leave your constructive :-) comments on the talk page ? Thanks. --Lysy (talk) 00:32, 7 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please take part in the improval of this article

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Hello. I would like to inform you that there is an ongoing discussion at article Territorial claims of the Baltic States (formerly was known as "Lost territories of the Baltic States", but was recently renamed; some users seems to disagree with that renaming). Recent edits as well were accused of POV, and, in fact, article was disputed for a long time already. I noticed your previous contributions to the yalk page article when it was disputed, therefore I think your opinion is much needed now as well. It would be nice if you would add that article to your watchlist and continue helping to improve it until a decition will be reached about its future (there is currently a poll about it in the article's talk page). I hope together we all will be able to make that article neutral. Kaiser 747 10:27, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

an RFC

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Check this out Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Ghirlandajo. I think you'll find it interesting. ;) --rydel 17:40, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

New article announcements

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Please don't forget to announce new Belarus related articles in Portal:Belarus/New article announcements. --EugeneZelenko 04:26, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you know I am not out there to 'polonize' articles, but I find it somewhat strange that she is shown as 'Belorusian', without any mention of Poland (PLC). What language did she wrote her plays in? Why is she the only Radzivil using the Belorusian spelling for name? I have nothing against leaving references to Belarus in her bio, but I'd like to know why references to Poland are not there.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 20:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is mentioned that she was born in Poland - I think this is enough, because her life and work is connected to Belarus in first line, and not to Poland.--Czalex 00:08, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Could you provide some references for that? This page lists her as Polish women composer and indicates she wrote her pieces in Polish. This sites confirms it (note that the writer is clearly a modern Belarusian academic). This one states that "Michal's wife, Franciszka Urszula Princess Wisniowiecka (*1705, †1753), became the first Polish woman playwright." Oh, and could you copy your replies to my talk page? I don't watch other people's talk pages.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 05:27, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Still, Polish language at that time does not signify a person to be only Polish, as it was lingua franca in the whole Commonwealth. Fact is that Ursula F. Radzivil wrote her works in Belarus and lived most of her life in Belarus married to a Belarusian nobleman - so I'd refer to her as a Belarusian Polish speaking writer.--Czalex 23:09, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

THE GREATEST TRAGEDY in the history of Russian lands, that later became known as Belarus, is when backstabbing Poles attacked them (Belarus) after the latter had had an ongoing civil war with the Moscow Rus as to over which lands to unite. In the beginning of this whole deal, Poles had been had by Germans in the span of CENTURIES. The former, crawling, came to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Russia and Samogitia (hereafter: GDLRS (!) and NOT (!) just GDL, (which is the correct and FULL (!) name of the entity)), to kiss them in the butt and lick their feet and asked, the latter, to create a union to stand up against the Germans, who kept on coming and coming, and having the former in the... you know where. GDLRS graciously agreed and created a union with them, which, with time, became known as Rech Pospolitaja (not in Polish spelling (!)). Things had been going on their way until the conflicts with the other part of Russian Lands (Moscow Rus) had begun surfacing. Nobody was interfering in the affairs of each other and Russian Lands settled their differences between each other on their own, while the backstabbing Poles had been quietly watching and waiting. After about a century of civil conflicts, the smaller part of Rus (what we now call Belarus) weakened and became an easy prey for the watchfully waiting Poles, and THAT is when it had, finally, happened. The latter attacked the unsuspecting Belarusian’s and completely invaded and subjugated them. The Russian Language (ONE FOR ALL THE LANDS OF RUS (!)) had been forbidden and the only language that was allowed was Polish FOR CENTURIES (!). Where do you think this ridiculous nonsense such as "Belarusian Language" comes from, let me ask you?!!! - It is the POLONISED RUSSIAN LANGUAGE THAT THE BETRAYED PEOPLE HAD BEEN TRYING TO SAVE AND PRESERVE TRHOUGH THE TIMES OF ANGWISH, STRUGGLE AND SUFFERING THAT THEIR SCOUNDREL "FRIENDS" INFLICTED ON THEM (!)(!)(!)(!)(!). Did you ever ask yourself why it is, somehow, like a "messed-with" Russian? - Well, that is because it IS A MESSED-WITH RUSSIAN (!). All documents and business had been done in Polish EXCLUSIVELY (!). Lands had been annexed and completely overwhelmed by them; and, that had been going on for CENTURIES (!) Do you know what they (poles) say today? - Well, I will tell you then: "Biauarus'... Tak to zh nashe zemue" (Translation for non-Slavic language folks: "Belarus... But, those are our lands". So, what I want to tell you, Mr. "Zhive Belarus" - every time you do or say something like the things you do and say right now (I've been watching you for some time by now) - you drive a dagger into the backs of your own people JUST like the scoundrel and backstabbing Poles had, and are waiting right now to do Exactly the same, right as we speak. So, THINK (!)(!)(!) first, before you do or say anything that can hurt your own people. The good, decent, kind, hard working, and honest people of which you were born. That is, unless, you are a camouflaged and masqueraded Pole, who is stealthily doing his scoundrel backstabbing deed of sabotage and disinformation of the minds of other people in the world, mentally shaping their thinking that Belarus is a stolen part of Poland. To the rest of Belarusian’s who will read this: Tell everyone you know? I personally heard from drunken Poles saying things like (Translation in English): "Well, what if in fifty, or so, years there will be a war and the map will change, hah? what if there will be a war?.. what if there will be a war?.." Did you know that in the early 90's, during the chaos that was created on purpose by the sold-out scoundrels like Shushkevich, Pozniak et al. the Poles moved their troops "slightly" closer to the border with Belarus? Well, in case if you are unaware of this, I am letting you know that in the early 90's, the idea was like this - devastate the economy and military of the country (Belarus) through theft, mishandling of economic and ANY other possible resources, and corruption of their leaders. Weaken and confuse the minds of general folk and thus, prepare the platform for (if necessary, a "quiet" invasion) acquisition of the country of Belarus and its lands by Poland. The bet was on disorganization and chaos in power and at any level of society, which would allow a virtually silent transition under the rule of Poland, and the country of Belarus would cease to exist. Forever(!) Look through the History of your country(!) - EVERY TIME THERE WAS A PROBLEM OR ANY WEAKNESS OF SOME SORT THE SCOUNDREL POLES WERE THERE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT(!)(!)(!) YOU JUST DO NOT LEARN, DO YOU?!!! NONE OF YOU!!!... I will leave it at this, with the words of a wise man: "Those Who Do Not Learn From History are Doomed To Repeat It" If you let all the mentioned above to repeat and to be done to your country again - then, you do not deserve to exist at all and just be somebody's bitches until the rest of time. The only way you can correct your mistakes of the past is to unite the Lands of Rus and, consequently, FINALLY deserve the right to exist. Now, GO and spread the word.

Can you help me get rid of some of these red links. I want to attempt to get Belarus to become an FA again (FAC failed), but I want to wait until the March 19 elections are over. Thanks User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 16:55, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Belarusian Jews cat

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Hi, I can understand why why Rabbis Avraham Elyashiv, Chaim Ozer Grodzinski were put into the Belorusian Jews category but:

  1. Why was Rabbi Chaim Shmuelevitz - born in Kovno Lithuania put into the Belorusian Jews cat?
  2. Why was Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman - born in Birz, Lithuania put into that cat?
  3. How do you know that Rabbi Refael Shapiro was Belorussian (it doesnt say anywhere in his article)
  4. How do you know that Tortz (where Rabbi Shimon Shkop was born) was in Belarus?

These are pressing questions and unfortunately, I may have to revert your edits if you can't answer them. But please, I'd like to see your response. Many thanks, Nesher 14:30, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Shimon Shkop, Elchonon Wasserman and Chaim Shmuelevitz lived and worked in Belarus. Refael Shapiro was born in Valozhyn, Belarus - that's where I considered their direct relation to Belarus from --Czalex 14:39, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Changes to Jewish and rabbis pages

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Hi Czalex: I see that others are complaining here as well, so here are my views: Please do NOT make any more changes to articles about Orthodox rabbis or subjects relating to Judaism in general that go against the way these personalities and the geography in which Jews lived in Europe that's traditionally regarded by Jews as correct for many hundreds of years. "Belarus" is a new construct! Previously it was the USSR and before that it was part of the Russian Empire. HISTORICALLY, the ethnic Lithuanian Jews were spread over what is TODAY known as parts of Poland, Russia, Lithuania and Belarus. They considered themselves LITHUANIANS and NOT "Belorusians." They never heard of it and if they wanted to be part of that area they may have regarded themsleves as living in White Russia. Also, please do not change the traditional JUDAIC names of towns and places in these articles, rather, you should be "dabbing" them, for example Vałožyn should be Volozhin ([[Vałožyn|Volozhin]]) in these articles. Thank you, IZAK 09:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Izak. The modern Republic of Lithuania is also a new construct just like Belarus because the Grand Duchy of Lithuania was a state founded by Baltic tribes but dominaterd by who is nowadays called Belarusians. Just like the Republic of Macedonia is not the state Alexander the Great ruled, is Lithuania not the country the Litvaks associated themselves with. BTW, I think the articles Lithuanian Jews and History of the Jews in Belarus should be merged.
Concerning Vałožyn and Volozhin: there is a tendency to write geographical names the way they are writen nowadays. So, even when talking about the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, the capital is mostly referred to as Vilnius - although not a single soul would call the city this way even 150 years ago! Vałožyn is the traditional Belarusian name and the name for the article, so I think it should be put preferently --Czalex 20:09, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfC about Irpen's conduct

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Hi! We filled a request for comment concerning the conduct of User:Irpen. Your comment is kindly invited.--AndriyK 16:55, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your signature

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Hello there, I was wondering if you would please modify your signature to conform to the guidelines laid out at Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. The general guidelines are that signatures shouldn't contain images, they shouldn't contain unnecessary internal links or any external links, and they shouldn't be unnecessarily long in Wiki source. The reasoning for this final bit is that overly long signatures tend to overwhelm the actual comments in edit mode, making it hard to track down and respond to specific comments. You can fix your signature by removing any images and external links, any unnecessary links (like links to Wikipedian organizations, articles, or subpages in userspace), and removing excessive color, font, and formatting code. Thank you. --Cyde↔Weys 17:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

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Updated DYK query On 23 August, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Biaroza monastery, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Meta vote

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What's your reason for opposing the wiki in normative Belarusian? If you'd voted for support or just abstained, you'd get rid in the be.wiki of all the kind of people, whose existence is so unbearable to you -- you constantly address them with derision, after all (like using derogratory narkamauka etc). Yury Tarasievich 16:56, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Narkamaŭka is not derogatory. It's just a common unofficial name for the Soviet russified Belarusian language. I'm not so strongly against Narkamaŭka as I am against the counterproductive attempts to create a parallel Belarusian wikipedia doubling the existing one. After you'll have your Byelorussian wiki will you then prohibit us to put in articles written in Narkamaŭka or what? No, you won't, just as you won't be able to prohbit us to put articles from Narkamaŭka Wikipedia to be:. So, we will have the simple case of two wikipedias literally doubling each other in numerous articles. Is it really worth it?--Czalex 19:03, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Don't you BS me :) narkamauka is derogatory. And LJ discussion really sums it all up. You guys aren't respecting right of other people to have views.
After you'll have your Byelorussian wiki will you then prohibit us to put in articles written in Narkamaŭka or what? No, you won't, just as you won't be able to prohbit us to put articles from Narkamaŭka Wikipedia to be:.
Forbid you to do something? God bless you. Are you measuring me (and us) by your own merit? Hey, isn't it psychological projection, eh?
I'll tell you what I am going to do after we create our wiki. I'm going to just ignore your community, guys. There's nothing of interest for me there. I do not speak and write your version of language, and you have no quality materials. You are welcome to my contributions, of course, like the GFDL puts it. I just don't care much. :) Yury Tarasievich 20:31, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So, nothing else to say but oooh, Narkamaŭka is derogatory?--Czalex 17:08, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Historical Oblasts

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If you want a great resource than try [7] and just look through that for instatnce Baranovichy Oblast. Also don't take offense, but I renamed everything into Russian, because that was the state language then. However note the format for istnace Vileyka Oblast: the administrative centre was relocated to Molodechno (modern Maladzyechna). Also remember that Lacinka is not used anymore as the main naming of Belarusian cities, you can use NSR for geographical names, but the preferance is BGN/PCGN. --Kuban Cossack 18:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link!
BTW could you please modify your signature 'cause it violates some rules: Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages--Czalex 09:31, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

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Updated DYK query On October 16, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Slutsk defence action, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

User:Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 05:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

From Kubkazak

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Admin div of BSSR upon 22.06.1941

Have a look at the map I created for the historcial Voblast articles. Also I will begin to start writing on Minsk Metro stations (I am a Metrophile after all). Do you now anyone in Minsk that is willing to take photographs?--Kuban Cossack 18:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your edits on the article. I want to ask you if there is any significant problems in the article that needs to be fixed, since I want to make it into an FA. Thanks again. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 14:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats on featuring this article on be wiki. Would you like to translate some text into English?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  18:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit to Wayne Gretzky

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Your edit to Wayne Gretzky has been removed due to lack of consensus in discussions at Talk:Wayne_Gretzky#Ethnicity. If you have more information to contribute, please do so at that talk page. THANKS!! Flibirigit 15:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, done that--Czalex 07:23, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Denhoff

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Hello I am StillesGrinsen. Can jou upload [[Image:Herb Denhoff.jpg] [[Image:Herb Pozniak.jpg] from WP:en to Commons. I will the COA have for de:Polnische Wappen thanks -84.138.147.21 09:15, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

be.wikipedia

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Yes, I am the person who emailed you from OTRS about the Wikipedia. I am letting you know that I made a torrent file of the database dump before the move and it is being hosted by Demonoid. You can search for Belarusian Wikipedia and find it. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 04:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RM of Podlachian Voivodeship

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A re-request to move Podlachian Voivodeship has been made at Talk:Podlachian Voivodeship. Thought you might be interested. —  AjaxSmack  07:01, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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A category that you created (Berorussian political prisoners) was suggested to be deleted (please see end of this discussion).Biophys (talk) 22:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You should nominate it at T:TDYK; I cannot do so as I cannot verify the (presumably) Belorussian language sources :( --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:56, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could you create an article for that? This concept is not clearly defined, and hence I was considering nominating Category:Belarusian nobility for deletion, but I would like to see if you could address my objection before that. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:48, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Basically, most Category:Ruthenian nobility and almost all of Category:Lithuanian nobility fall into the category "Belarusian nobility" as being of origin from Belarus. We could create a common Belarusian-Lithuanian category Nobility of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, but I'm afraid it would not gain support from most Lithuanian wikipedians --Czalex 23:59, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Interesting article, why not nominate it at T:TDYK for main page exposure? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:20, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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To accuse Stary Olsa of, umm, no indicia of notability, is close to insanity. It's one of the few Belarusian bands that really are notable --Czalex 21:24, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello :-) I'm kind of new on Wikipedia, mostly interested in Polish and Belarusian metters (ethnically I'm both). I saw you were quite active on the Tadeusz Kościuszko page.

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