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Spoiler and birth date
[edit]Why was there no spoiler warning for the character page? It reveals important details about the books!
I know right!!!! Who would expect an encyclopedia to contain... details! What a shocker!!!!
When was Adrian Mole born? If we assume he is the same age in his first appearance as he would be in real life, then by substracting 13 from 1982 we get 1969. But is this true? — JIP | Talk 07:40, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
- I would have thought that to be a reasonable assuption: If I recall correctly there is some discusion of the falklands war in the first ook, which should be sufficent to pin down the nominal "birthday".Iain 11:24, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
He was born in 1967; the Falklands War did not come up until near the end of the first book, a year after it began, meaning that he turned fourteen in 1981. There is some inconsistency in the story, if he was thirty-three in 2002, in the last book. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.110.232.53 (talk • contribs) 16:18, May 26, 2005.
- Yes - the first date given in Secret Diary is Thursday January 1st. In 1981 New Year's Day was, indeed, a Thursday. So Adrian was born on April 2nd, 1967. Vashti 18:40, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
- There's still just the inconsistency of in the last book Adrian being 33 years old in 2002, which would put his birthdate at April 2nd, 1969. By the way, I'm the same person as 24.110.232.53 back in May, I have a user account now. Yeltensic42.618 02:48, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
There is more support for 1967 in the diary entry of the 20th January in the first year of The Secret Diary which Adrian writes was a full moon. The 20th of January 1981 was indeed a full moon, whereas in 1982 the full moon was on the 9th of January. This is later confirmed when he writes that Easter Sunday was on the 19th April, again only a 1981 event. Both these are monthly events are more definitive than aligning with the days of the week and in only one in about 300 years is January the 20th a full moon and on a Tuesday while Easter is on the 18th April. Then in July he repeatedly mentions Proncess Diana Spencer's July 1981 royal wedding and its celebrations. All this confirms that Sue Townsend had a year in mind when she started writing The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole aged 13 3/4" and that year was certainly 1981. exexpert 21:35, June 10th 2021 (UTC)
Just finished reading ...Weapons Of Mass Destruction. Sob... pomegranate 18:08, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
Children's books?
[edit]User:Deborah-jl recategorised this page from "Series of books" to "Series of children's books". I've reverted, as I don't think the Mole books are children's books; they're certainly aimed at an audience of all ages. Penguin Books seem to agree, as they print the books *as* Penguin and not under their Puffin imprint for children's books. Vashti 15:57, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- See your talk page. I agree about the series as a whole, but not about the first few books. As for children's lit, some books are marketed at both adults and children (such as The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttime) and should be categorised as both. In any case, since the series per se is no longer children's literature, I agree with your reversion on the series page in particular, but I've added the Category:Children's books cat to the stub for the first book. 17:38, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
1967 births categorisation
[edit]Is it really appropriate to have a fictional character in the year of birth categories?--HisSpaceResearch 01:43, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think so. I've removed it. Vashti 03:21, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Nigel
[edit]Okay, what's the situation with Nigel's surname? Is it Partridge or Hetherington? If it's a continuity issue we should note it, but at the moment it's going back and forth like a yo-yo. Vashti 16:03, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
In the 'Secret Diary of Adrian Mole aged 13 and 3/4'-the play, Nigel states he is "Searching for a new identity." This is demonstrated by his later conversion to a homosexual Buddhist in the later books. Perhaps the change in his surname is another example of his seeking a new identity? -Althewriter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Althewriter (talk • contribs) 14:07, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Barry Kent
[edit]Doesn't Barry steal Adrian's diaries at some point, later using them as the basis for Dork's Diary? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.199.114.104 (talk) 02:44, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I've just read all of the books in order...this never happened.
Yes it does. Quite clearly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.117.1.11 (talk) 03:39, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- This isn't entirely clear, but I think he has the opportunity in Small Amphibians, and this takes him from cult poet to best-selling novelist, but it'd be difficult for Wikipedia to describe this as "clearly" happening when it's left to the reader to infer. It does call into question the suggestion on the characters page "Barry Kent succeeds on natural talent, which Adrian Mole has clearly been unable to find in himself". Billwilson5060 (talk) 09:55, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- It's mentioned in (I think) the first book that Kent wins a poetry competition, beating Adrian's entry - so the concept of him having some literary talent is not a new thing and certainly hinted at early on. Chaheel Riens (talk) 11:07, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- This isn't entirely clear, but I think he has the opportunity in Small Amphibians, and this takes him from cult poet to best-selling novelist, but it'd be difficult for Wikipedia to describe this as "clearly" happening when it's left to the reader to infer. It does call into question the suggestion on the characters page "Barry Kent succeeds on natural talent, which Adrian Mole has clearly been unable to find in himself". Billwilson5060 (talk) 09:55, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
Computer game?
[edit]What on Earth did that involve? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.198.88 (talk) 10:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Adrian Mole: The Movie?
[edit]Is there really a movie in the works? I sure do hope so go packers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.89.216.222 (talk) 17:59, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Pandora's father's death
[edit]Can anyone tell me where is the reference to Ivan Braithwaite's death in The Lost Diaries? The two year anniversary is mentioned in Weapons of Mass Destruction on October 20th 2002 but I cannot see anything written on Otober 20th 2000... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.55.177 (talk) 21:22, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- A definite canon issue. Here: [1] in the serial, Ivan goes back to Tania having been married to Pauline. Billwilson5060 (talk) 11:12, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Other published material
[edit]Is the content of the Utterly Merry Comic Relief book something that exists elsewhere? Adrian Mole's Christmas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geffers (talk • contribs) 16:03, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
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