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The article List of heavy metal musicians should have a wikilink to here, but sadly i don't know LOUDNESS and don't know to which subdivision of metal it should be caunted, so i can't add it. Please do so if you feel competent about it. Lady Tenar 23:10, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Temporal integration

The first paragraph of the Explanation is mainly about loudness temporal integration, but the integration periods (600-1000 ms) are longer than those that I see in the literature. Consider Moore's "An Introduction to the Psychology of Hearing" (fourth edition, p63), where 100-200 ms is given as the upper cutoff of temporal integration.^[1] Similar data are in Zwicker & Fastl's "Psychoacoustics: Facts and Models".^[2] I am curious as to whether the 600-1000 ms time can be substantiated, or if it would be better to rewrite this to be consistent with authoratitive sources (which is what I suspect).Densilcabrera (talk) 02:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Temporal integration is no longer discussed in the article. Perhaps it should be. ~Kvng (talk) 23:00, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Moore,BCJ: "An Introduction to the Psychology of Hearing", page 63. Academic Press, 2003.
^ Zwicker, E & Fastl, H: "Psychoacoustics: Facts and Models", page 340. Springer, 1999.

Temporal effects

I've removing this uncited information on temporal considerations for loudness perception. I have heard these effects discussed but I am unable to find a citation. ~Kvng (talk) 17:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The human auditory system averages the effects of SPL over a 600–1000 ms interval. A sound of constant SPL will be perceived to increase in loudness as samples of duration 20, 50, 100, 200 ms are heard, up to a duration of about 1 second at which point the perception of loudness will stabilize. For sounds of duration greater than 1 second, the moment-by-moment perception of loudness will be related to the average loudness during the preceding 600–1000 ms.^{[citation needed]}

I agree with the removal; explaining short-term and long-term loudness (see Moore, or Fastl) will require more detail than that. Altaphon (talk) 06:14, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

volume

The disambiguation page for volume points here, yet the word doesn't appear anywhere in the article. Should there be some statement that the word volume is commonly (thought technically incorrectly) used to indicate audio loudness? Common knowledge, but i don't know how I'd cite it. Gjxj (talk) 18:11, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is a similar problem with the other articles referenced there. I have improved Volume (disambiguation) to try and add some context. ~Kvng (talk) 14:12, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Explanation" inadequate

The crucial second sentence in the Explanation sentence gives no reference and, confusingly, refers to both 0.67 and 0.3 power functions.Paulhummerman (talk) 10:09, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Moore,BCJ: "An Introduction to the Psychology of Hearing", page 63. Academic Press, 2003.

[2] Zwicker, E & Fastl, H: "Psychoacoustics: Facts and Models", page 340. Springer, 1999.

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